Give Me A Hand! (first gun)

[Chillax]

Hey guys played with you fellas for the first time today. Was awesome fun and will be coming out hopfully every weekend from now on! So i want to invest in a Airsoft gun, My budget is about $380 NZD, since i haft to buy the rest of the gear aswell!

Any of these Any good?

#1 - http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/dytac/dy ... cs-fg.html
#2 - http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/accuracy ... arbox.html
#3 - http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/accuracy ... black.html
#4 - http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/accuracy ... arbox.html

i like the Look and sound of these guns, But i really dont have any idea how good they compare to other guns, So a helping hand would be awesome,

**Tell me what gun you guys recommend, Put some Links of that gun or guns in here, Appreciate it!**

-chillax

[Alroys]

I would avoid APS ive heard nothing but bad things about them, never heard of dytax.

For the sort of budget you've got probably the best option for AR15's is G&P
http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/con ... =6&cat=273

Although you might be limited to rather low end / standard model you can always customize it at a latter date.

Also for any packages valued at $400 or higher you will have to pay 15% of the value in gst + a $47 admin fee.

[PepsiCo]

General rule: Buy from trusted brands. From what I've gathered, a lot of these guns will need to be tuned/fixed/upgraded/downgraded/broken/fixed/brokenagain/fixedagain before you can even use them. For your budget I could recommend G&P and G&G as they are overall good companies. And since all the ones you linked are M4/SR15 variants, try looking through G&P from a lot of the sites as G&P make primarily M4s. Otherwise I would recommend Tokyo Marui (As would 99.999% of the guys in the club) but they will most definitely be out of your budget.

I myself have a G&P Sentry and the only problems I had with it was caused by me from changing/cutting springs and generally not knowing how to take apart and put together a gearbox properly.

With alot of the DYTAC and random brands I think you will find you need new springs/cut springs to lwoer the FPS a bit but I'm sure someone will help you out with that. (-cough- sort of a self taught expert on G&P Gearboxes by now )

Try looking on other sites like:

wgcshop.com
echigoya-guns.com (just to drool over guns that cost an arm and a leg)

EDIT: Also it may be a good idea to go all out on AEG as the only other thing you really need to get started on airsoft is safety goggles/glasses. Building your gear around a good primary is a good start but again, you can do whatever tickles your fancy

[Chillax]

thanks for the replys

i had a look at WGCshop, and these 3 guns got my attention.

http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/pro ... =6&cat=274
http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/pro ... =6&cat=273
http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/pro ... =6&cat=273

[Mr TaniFa]

Hi Chillax

If its out of the these three Id probably go for this one

http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?tabpage=1&search=special&rs=GG%20AEGs&item=GG-AEG-GR15RXLDSTBP&search_From=category&view=info

Reasons

1) its the cheapest
2) its got EBB
3) EBB prob make it a standout selling point on TM at a later date if you ever looked for anything else

the G&P M4 looks pretty smart mind you,

[ReaperNet]

Can't go wrong with a G&P AR15 variant. You'll wanna change the bevel gear ASAP though. Apart from that, it should be gameable.

Consider:

G&P M4 SOPMOD $292 USD



G&P Sentry $282 USD



Or if you want to be all Navy SEALS operator: MK18 MOD 1 $320USD

[Flazzbog]

G&P M4 Variant
Madbull Hopup Unit (G&P ones are bad and unwind). (30-40 USD ish)
SHS Bevel Gear (2-5 USD ish)

Mags and battery.

That is what you want, if you want an AR15. EBB is cool but they have problems sometimes.

Or buy a Tokyo Marui Next Gen Recoil Shock thing from echigoya-guns.com

[straightjacket]

just to clarify.... a bevel gear is/does what exactly?
cheers

[Sneakers]

It's the gear that prevents your motor spinning your gearbox in reverse. At the end of each trigger pull, the motor slows down, then tries to back up a bit.

The problem with the G&G M4s is that the bevel gear they put in there only has two teeth, which isn't enough. The bevel gear you replace it with has 4-5 teeth.

[straightjacket]

thank you.

[Flazzbog]

It's not really a design oversight since they're made to be used primarily in full-auto. But when you're going semi, it's just a bit inefficient trying to make follow up shots when your gears are spinning backwards a wee bit.

[PepsiCo]

Also, G&P internals are pretty much the same through out their range. So with G&P it's more the 'what style of M4 you like' rather than 'how good are the internals'

[Chillax]

Thanks everyone for all the Help. Choosing my first gun is alot harder then i thought...
Here are some guns im interested in getting, But not 100% sure. (if there are better guns out there then the ones i mention for a simular price, Mention them please)

#1 - http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-p-hong ... black.html
#2 - http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-p-hong ... rsion.html
#3 - http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-p-hong ... ombat.html
#4 - http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-p-hong ... -sand.html
#5 - http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-p-hong ... ition.html

[Eda]

As PepsiCo said, G&P internals don't differ much, so it's just up to you to get whichever one you think looks more awesome and practical (RIS etc).

Plus don't forget that bevel gear!

[Tauron]

Apart from that, it should be gameable.

Not to knock your suggestions but... why recommend a new player a gun that needs to be almost completely disassembled and modified before it's gameable? Surely there's something decent in that price range that just works out of the box?