SNIPERS___GAS OR SPRING PROS AND CONS?
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Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:42 am
My opinion / experience,
Gas sniper rifles have problems with the FPS levels.
On hot days the gas heats up and gives your rifle more FPS which can be dangerous / harmful to your target, (Can cause injury or just be bloody hurts like hell
)
I personally prefer non gas rifles.
I own two TM VSR G Spec's (Spring Powered) which you manually cock each time to fire.
One is upgraded to around 410 FPS and the other is stock standard.
The stock standard one is not too good, as its range is low. (275 FPS)
The Upgraded rifle is bloody accurate and works very well. It packs a punch, so you have to be very careful when hunting people as it can cause injury if you get too carried away. The users of such weapons have to have a reasonable amount of responsibility and care not to f**k people up.
Some other clubs have High FPS limits and people are mildly injured in most games. (Bleeders on face / head area)
We have had members own JG Bar 10 Rifles which are also non gas spring powered manual cocking rifles.
From what I have seen they are bloody good rifles, accurate and come stock standard at I think around 400FPS.
The JG has a very nice feeling stock, Its sort of a rubber composite.
Before buying a upgraded Sniper Rifle check with your club to make sure you can use it. As most clubs have FPS Rules, At TAG New players are probationary players which means they are restricted to a lower FPS on Sniper Rifles. This is for the safety of the other players.
Rifles such as the TM PSG are classed as SEG's in our club due to them being the same as a SEG, You pull the trigger and it fires one shot as fast as you can pull the trigger. This would lead to an unfair advantage to the other SEG players. Then some people would upgrade their SEG's and by adding a scope and calling it a Sniper Rifle.
Sniper Rifles have a higher FPS Limit giving them more range and out ranging the other SEG's.
Bolt action rifles are much fairer to all players.
Gas sniper rifles have problems with the FPS levels.
On hot days the gas heats up and gives your rifle more FPS which can be dangerous / harmful to your target, (Can cause injury or just be bloody hurts like hell
)
I personally prefer non gas rifles.
I own two TM VSR G Spec's (Spring Powered) which you manually cock each time to fire.
One is upgraded to around 410 FPS and the other is stock standard.
The stock standard one is not too good, as its range is low. (275 FPS)
The Upgraded rifle is bloody accurate and works very well. It packs a punch, so you have to be very careful when hunting people as it can cause injury if you get too carried away. The users of such weapons have to have a reasonable amount of responsibility and care not to f**k people up.
Some other clubs have High FPS limits and people are mildly injured in most games. (Bleeders on face / head area)
We have had members own JG Bar 10 Rifles which are also non gas spring powered manual cocking rifles.
From what I have seen they are bloody good rifles, accurate and come stock standard at I think around 400FPS.
The JG has a very nice feeling stock, Its sort of a rubber composite.
Before buying a upgraded Sniper Rifle check with your club to make sure you can use it. As most clubs have FPS Rules, At TAG New players are probationary players which means they are restricted to a lower FPS on Sniper Rifles. This is for the safety of the other players.
Rifles such as the TM PSG are classed as SEG's in our club due to them being the same as a SEG, You pull the trigger and it fires one shot as fast as you can pull the trigger. This would lead to an unfair advantage to the other SEG players. Then some people would upgrade their SEG's and by adding a scope and calling it a Sniper Rifle.
Sniper Rifles have a higher FPS Limit giving them more range and out ranging the other SEG's.
Bolt action rifles are much fairer to all players.
Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:57 pm
the problem with spring rifles is that if you want higher FPS.. you need to put in a larger spring.. and it becomes harder to cock, puts more pressure on all the parts (which you also need to upgrade) and ultimately destroys the rifle (as happened to an M40 I sold to auckland).
The best way around gas variance with gas rifles is to get an HPA kit. I detest external power sources but i had an M700 AICS with an HPA kit and it was VERY consistant. You can dial the pressure on the kit to adjust your FPS and if you tune it just right.. you can shoot up to 100m and hit a man sized target.
Of course a full kit including rifle would be costing you around $1200-1400 so you'd want to be very serious about it!
The best way around gas variance with gas rifles is to get an HPA kit. I detest external power sources but i had an M700 AICS with an HPA kit and it was VERY consistant. You can dial the pressure on the kit to adjust your FPS and if you tune it just right.. you can shoot up to 100m and hit a man sized target.
Of course a full kit including rifle would be costing you around $1200-1400 so you'd want to be very serious about it!
Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:29 pm
If you really had the money, you could swing either way. Spring will always be the best way to go if you want to be consistant fps wise, but it will sometimes cost an arm and a leg to get your rifle to where you want it. Plus the cocking factor - indeed the strength needed to cock the rifle will increase as the spring gets bigger. Also the need to replace sears to handle the stress along with a new piston, trigger assembly, spring guide etc...
Gas however is both more relaxed and chaotic, they require hardly any effort to cock, need maintenance just like a gbb pistol from what I can gather but they are very unreliable in fps consistency. One, previous member, insisted that a pcs bolt should be argued for in order to be able to adjust the rifles fps output.
Much to think about, a lot relies on your budget, however I am sure most people on these forums would say, spring is the way to go.
Gas however is both more relaxed and chaotic, they require hardly any effort to cock, need maintenance just like a gbb pistol from what I can gather but they are very unreliable in fps consistency. One, previous member, insisted that a pcs bolt should be argued for in order to be able to adjust the rifles fps output.
Much to think about, a lot relies on your budget, however I am sure most people on these forums would say, spring is the way to go.
Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:20 pm
Like Acey said, if you want to run gas you NEED an external gas supply that can keep the rifle at the same FPS. not only for getting each shot the same. But also for safety, Once it starts heating up your shots are going to be leaving the barrel alot faster than you think they are.
Acey's AICS was a scary beast just because of how reliable it was. And i can vouch for the 100m+ kills...i was right next to him spotting with my scope. And if i remember right it was uphill Acey?
Acey's AICS was a scary beast just because of how reliable it was. And i can vouch for the 100m+ kills...i was right next to him spotting with my scope. And if i remember right it was uphill Acey?
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